The Tribulation Coming to America will be great, but it won’t be the Great Tribulation…Yet!!!

There are many people who feel that we are at the cusp of the “Great Tribulation”. I wish that was true but unfortunately, it is not. To believe that, is to negate several scriptures from the Bible and even the spoken words of Yeshua (Jesus) Himself. A dangerous precedent has been set and that is; whenever believers suffer they think it is the beginning of the “Great Tribulation”. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Let’s examine why.

The first question WE must look at the belief in a “Rapture”. Some say “yes” some say “no” some say “pre-tribulation”, some say “mid-tribulation” others say “post-tribulation”. This is what I say. I believe that Yeshua (Yehoshua – Strong’s number #G2424) is the only Son of YHWH (God) and that He died, was resurrected after 3 days and 3 nights and now sits on the right hand of the Father.

Here is my argument. If I believe in the Savior and the rapture comes, whether I believe in it or not I will be spared. Right? But if you believe in the rapture and it doesn’t come, oops, you are up a dirty creek without a paddle. (I hate to be crude but it is a fact.) Just my way of looking at things. Think about it! (Proverbs 22:3; 27:12.)

Now a couple of examples of my line of thought. in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s in the Balkan states and Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia there was a powerful revival underway. (It was even underway in America at that same time.) When the soviets invaded and killed believers by the thousands and transported hundred of thousands to labor camps across Siberia where many died of malnutrition, they did not flee the obvious invasion of the newly formed Red Army. The reason? It was the beginning of the Great Tribulation and they would be raptured soon.

Next example is China. Probably many of you are familiar with the revival in China in the late 1800’s all through the teens and twenties and into the thirties of the 20th Century. When the communist came to power many Chinese fled to the island of Formosa with General Chiang Kai-shek. Many Christians did not go because this was the Great Tribulation and they would be raptured soon. Unfortunately, over 20 million Christians died during the transition of power, The Great Leap Forward, the Great Chinese Famine and the Cultural Revolution. Many hundreds of thousands of Christians died while being yoked together like oxen and forced to pull plows in the muddy rice paddies. Here is one scripture people to pay attention to: Luke 17:34-37.

Why have I said all this; for one reason, don’t be mislead by predictions of the “Great Tribulation” is at hand when things start to get bad. The bad news is things will be bad for a very long time. How do I know? Remember the five cycles of 7 years each. Also, remember we are now in the 6th year of the 3rd cycle. Coming soon is the cycle of the sword.

Contrary to what I stated in:  I am now certain that America will not survive the coming war as a political entity. I have mentioned this several times lately because I want everyone to understand that America will still exist, just like Rome does, but Rome is not what it used to be in the days of Julius Caesar. When I originally wrote When the Poop Hits the Oscillator I received guffaws of laughter and out and out ridicule that I was so supercilious to believe that China and Russia would ever form an alliance. How about now?

What are going to be some of the signs that things will heat up? I think we will see N.A.T.O. dissolve and many of its former members will join the Russia-China European-Asian Alliance. Prominent among these members will most assuredly by Germany, Turkey, Greece in is need of a bail out so anticipate Greece to follow suit. It is quite possible that even France could change its alliance as well. India is not part of NATO but it is actively being courted by the alliance. Also, keep a close eye on South Korea.

As I have stated before, I believe the best way for this to happen is to burst a high altitude EMP device over the middle of the US, watch the lights go out and wait about one year and the American population will shrink by 90%. That is a whole lot less guns to face than attacking 320 million Americans head-to-head. Maybe some of you missed this little announcement by Russia:  . You can park one of these bad boys in the Gulf of Mexico, Chesapeake Bay, Mississippi River or similar ports of entry and then launch an EMP device 300 miles straight up over Omaha, Nebraska and the lights go out. Never happen right? Remember what some of you said about a Russia-China alliance?

So what? Everyone is now scared and trembling in their boots and others are saying big deal I have food, guns and ammunition enough for ___ years. Fill in the blank yourself. But here is your new target dates, 2030-2033. Why? Remember where we are in the 5 cycles. We still have 2 years left of this cycle, Cycle  #3, and the next cycle, Cycle #4 is the Cycle of the Sword or War Cycle. It should begin the Spring of 2017.

This does not mean that you now have more than 2 years to prepare. Why? Because we could have a financial collapse this year and a EMP could be detonated over the US in 2016, the Sabbatical year of this cycle and the invasion could start in 2017. Is this a prophecy or a certainty? No! Using the information that I have available to me at this time this is a good guess, but regardless, preparing your family for the inevitable would be a good idea at this time.

Now herein lies the test of the faithful. Just say we do experience some sought of financial/social collapse in this country in 2015 or early 2016. I have now taught you about the sabbatical year and what you should and should not do. Are you going to keep some silly sabbatical year if your family is starving to death? No! Of course not. You will do whatever it takes, even plowing, planting, pruning and harvesting in order to feed your family, right? Or, will you be obedient to the sabbatical year and stock up beforehand? It is your choice.

“Hey! Wait a minute Codger. I thought the Great Tribulation was only 7 years and you are talking about 15-18 years. What’s up?”

I am very glad you asked that question. I do not think the answer will fit into one article but I will give you the basics. The Cycle of the Sword runs from 2017 to 2023. The Cycle of Slavery begins in 2024 to 2030. Now here is the good part. It is possible that part of the Cycle of War will coincide with the 2300 days of Daniel chapter 8. Everyone forgets about this prophecy and its timing. Then, if all goes well, the Great Tribulation could begin around 2026 or 2027 and run until 2033. If we are not lucky we will have, oops, not me per se, but you, will have to endure the full Cycle of Slavery before the beginning of the “Great Tribulation”. Am I going to be raptured? No, not at all. I will probably be dead by then. Under ideal conditions I might make it to 80 but under the conditions that I have just briefly touched on, I don’t think so. But with YHWH we never know what He has in store for us.

Now lets review. If an EMP device is detonated over the US or we have another Carrington event naturally and the electrical grid goes down for at least a year, 90% of Americans will die within that year. Couple that with the war and slavery cycles another 90% will die from various causes. If you do the math only about 3 to 3.5 million people will survive in America to go through the Great Tribulation.

I still have other articles in the works, I am just unsure of which way and how far to go. Keep me in prayer, because until I get a release from the Father I will not go much farther. There are some things I can share and some things I cannot. I know that several of you are anxious for me to lay it all out on the table, so to speak, but there is much more prayer that must go into this before I say too much more.

Now some of you are saying that I have just painted an impossible scenario. This is not true. Let me refer you to Romans 8:35-39. Nothing is impossible for YHWH. Nothing.

I will end with Numbers 6:23-27:

May “YHWH bless you and guard you: YHWH make His face shine upon you, and show favor to you; YHWH lift up His face upon you, and give you peace. Thus they shall put My Name on the children of Israel and I Myself shall bless them.”


8 thoughts on “The Tribulation Coming to America will be great, but it won’t be the Great Tribulation…Yet!!!

  1. Though the author of this article isn’t coming from our perspective of Torah, and salvation through the shed blood of Messiah Yeshua, it is well considered and well written to provide a glimpse of the mindset of this world .This is how it will inevitably play out in the applied wisdom of men. This is why we must obediently seek His Kingdom according to His Word, His Torah, His instruction and not the uncertainty of avoiding it all in a rapture.

    This article was written by Brandon Smith and originally published at I read it in this months Oath Keepers update.

    The structure of history is held together by two essential and distinct kinds of links, two moments in time to which no one is immune: moments of epiphany, and moments of catastrophe. Sometimes, both elements intermingle at the birth of a singular epoch. Men often awaken to understanding in the midst of great crisis; and, invariably, great crises can erupt when men awaken. These are the moments when social gravity vanishes, when the kinetic glue of normalcy melts away, and we begin to see the true foundations of our world, if a foundation exists at all.

    Catastrophe occurs when too many people refuse to accept that around us always are two universes at work. There is the cold, hard reality that underlies everything. And on the surface is a veil of deceit and compromise. The more humanity compromises vital truths in order to enjoy the comfort of illusions, the more mind-shattering it will be when those illusions fall away. These two worlds can coexist only for short periods of time, and they will always and eventually collide. There is no other possible outcome.

    I think it could be said that the more polarized our realities become, the more explosive and disastrous the reaction will be when the separation is removed. I feel it absolutely necessary to relate this danger because today humanity is living so historically far from the bedrock of reality, political reality, social reality and economic reality that the stage has been set for a kind of full spectrum destabilization that has never been seen before.

    Though my analysis tends to lean toward the economic side of things, I am not only speaking of shattered illusions in the financial realm. In my next article, one last time I plan to go over nearly every mainstream economic statistic used today to misdirect the public (from national debt to unemployment to inflation to retail sales and corporate profits) and expose why they are false while giving you the real numbers. Most of my regular readers are familiar with much of this information, but I think it important to consolidate it all in a single article so that we can take stock of where our society sits fiscally as we enter 2015. For now, though, I want to discuss the core problem of self-deception, the problem that makes all the rest of our problems possible.

    When the initial phase of the global collapse was triggered in 2007 and 2008, there was a substantial explosion in interest and education in terms of liberty issues and alternative economic awareness. I remember back in 2006 when I had just begun writing for the movement that the ratio of people on any given Web forum or in any given public discussion was vastly opposed to alternative viewpoints and information — at least 50-1 by my observations. We were at the height of the real estate frenzy; everyone was buying houses with money they didn’t have and borrowing on their mortgages to purchase stuff they didn’t need. Life was good. The shock of the credit crisis came quickly and abruptly for most people, and there has been a considerable shift in the kinds of discussions many are willing to entertain about our future. Yet the idea that such things can happen despite a consensus of social and geopolitical health does not seemed to have soaked into the thick skulls of average people.

    Time, unfortunately, has a magical ability to erase vigilance. It’s not that the public has necessarily forgotten that danger can strike anytime anywhere (though some of them have). Many of them know full well that our culture is floating on a paper-thin ship in a turbulent sea. However, the disturbing trend today reveals that people have decided they do not care. “Taking the blue pill” is the rising rally cry from the so-called “new normal.” Yes, the economy is an illusion, the political system is an illusion and the various global conflicts our society participates in are mostly illusions. But we “can’t do anything about it,” so we might as well profit from these illusions while we can, right?

    It has been said that during the economic collapse of the 1930s that the Great Depression was a depression only for the 30 percent of people that had lost everything. For the employed and the financially secure, the depression was much like any other time. This is the point at which we stand today in the collective mindset. With nearly a third of the U.S. population kicked off the unemployment rolls and approximately half the country dependent on a government check of some kind for their survival, the current depression is only now beginning to feel like a depression for anyone. The soup lines have received a fresh candy coating of EBT cards and welfare payments, but the illusion is finally fading, and this should be of great concern to us all in 2015.

    Even more frightening is our culture’s deluded sense of what a collapse actually looks like. For many, collapse is a cinematic and overnight affair, with zombies, nuclear bombs and mass panic. In real life, and throughout history, collapse is a process. Since at least 2008, the U.S. and the rest of the world have been experiencing that process. Everyone is waiting for equities to implode and for social unrest to erupt before they take the threat seriously, but these are not signals of collapse. These are the things that occur when a collapse has run its course. Collapse never occurs overnight. It takes years for the effects of social and fiscal breakdown to be visibly felt. And when they are felt, many people refuse to notice. Eighty years ago, America was halfway through the Great Depression, and mainstream economists were STILL claiming that recovery was right around the corner. Illusion and self-deception can be so powerful that the worst miseries can be normalized, at least for a little while.

    And it isn’t only the general public that is stricken with crippling bias. There are those within the liberty movement who have bought into false paradigms for various reasons, and this threatens any progress we have made over the past several years. There are those who still think that the “conflict” between Eastern and Western politicians and banking elites is somehow real. There are those who believe that Russia and China, despite their numerous and undeniable ties to the global banking syndicate (information I have covered in multiple articles over the years), are the “good guys”, while Western nations are the “bad guys”, rather than them all being mere subsidiaries and franchises of the same monstrous globalist machine.

    They hold onto this illusion, I think, because it is much more frightening to accept the reality that we are alone, that the liberty movement is the first and last line of defense against centralization, that the responsibility for the future of independence and individual freedom rests on our shoulders. It is much easier to fantasize that there are others out there, nations and governments with armies and capital, that are on our side and will fight our battles for us. This illusion will be a painful one for many in the movement as they begin to realize that the East is actually working in tandem with international financiers instead of working against them.

    There are also those in the liberty movement who cling to the notion that the fight against globalism will be won without physical conflict. They believe that if we simply protest long enough, play the political and legal game long enough, nullify long enough, refuse to participate long enough, that the elitist edifice, an edifice which has existed for centuries and has manipulated historical precedence for just as long, will suddenly disappear in a puff of fairy dust.

    The first problem with this strategy is that it relies on the assumption of time. Sure, anything is possible given ample opportunity. Perhaps the movement could grind away at the New World Order over the course of several decades until the majority of the masses are awake and aware (which is exactly how long it would take). However, I think it infinitely foolish to presume that we have decades to accomplish such a task. If the past has shown us anything, it is that tyranny does not respect reason and, at a certain point, couldn’t care less about image. Tyranny respects only power. It does not respect the protestations of ants it can crush under foot, but it will make a wide path around a rattlesnake ready to strike. While there is utility in the pursuit of intellectual and philosophical combat, if you are not willing to be the rattlesnake as well, then you are not going to affect change against such an opponent. You will eventually be stepped on.

    The refusal to accept responsibility for one’s own defense is yet another product of fear — fear that the enemy is too powerful, that all resistance is futile. But resistance is only assured failure if resistance is never undertaken. Sheeple defeat themselves within their own minds before they ever stand up, and so they never stand. This is the only reason totalitarian elements ever achieve success. Again, many in the liberty movement are going to face a rude awakening when they realize they have relied too much on the notion of the system policing itself, instead of preparing for the worst-case scenario.

    And finally, the globalists themselves suffer from a veritable fog of illusions to which I can speak only briefly.

    We are stepping over the threshold of an age that will shatter the illusions of everyone, and the internationalists are no exception. The root pillar of elitist globalism itself is that some men are born to rule, while other men are born to serve. Some men are born kings, and other men are born slaves. The psychopathy of this belief system should be evident, but psychopathy also elicits blinding ego and hubris, which smothers any inherent questions of motive. I do not think the elites ever actually consider the validity of their own philosophies. I am relatively certain their manner of viewing the world is much like that of a cult, a religious sect driven by the brutality of zealotry rather than the empowering nature of understanding.

    Such men cannot be reasoned with. In fact, zealots often revel in their ability to trample all other world views as they grasp for complete dominance of their ideology. The illusion of rightness is far more important to them than actual truth, and this is their greatest weakness. Hidden under all the posturing and power grabbing, deep in the recesses of their own assumed omnipotence, I sense an ever present terror within the globalist culture. I sense a brand of terror that comes only from the seed of doubt.

    The incredible array of propaganda leveled at the public, the constant war gaming and mind gaming against the citizenry, the endless hailstorm of legal maneuvering designed to erase our sense of connection with our natural rights and liberties, the tidal wave of fearmongering, and all the manipulations and scapegoats and elaborate theatrical displays, all reek of fear. For if the globalists were truly as omnipotent as they pretend to be — if they really were all-knowing philosopher kings born to rule — then they would already have their New World Order. They would not need lies. They would not need the threat of force. The undeniable power of their ideology would be enough if their ideology actually had any validity. Lies are designed to hide lack of validity and lack of strength. The globalists are, at bottom, a hollow shell desperately clamoring for substance.

    What may appear to be the “thoroughness” of the elitist con is actually a form of micro-management that exhibits a fundamental doubt of success. The globalists wish they could predict the future, but they cannot. So they are just as afraid as most of humanity. I believe we are entering an era in which they will feel the stark pain of shattered illusions and the destruction of their own fantasies, no less felt than the pain of the rest of the world.

    Our mission as an opposing force to globalism is to come to terms with our own illusions and to erase them, to stop compromising and to stop waiting for the final shoe to drop and to take positive action now rather than after the endgame develops. This means preparation and organization for the worst-case scenarios. This means making one’s family, neighborhood and community as self-reliant and secure as possible. The excuses have to stop. The distractions and intellectualized silver bullet solutions have to stop. Hard work and risk are all that are left, all that matters. If we do this, and if we do this now, then victory is possible. In any contest of strength and will, he who knows himself best, he who sheds all illusion, will be the winner

  2. What a wonderful read from you both. Thank you for sharing.
    Be Prepared – Be Prayerful – Be Thankful – You are an American

  3. Prayers for you, yours and your work, CC.
    I’m learning from your blog.
    If what you have to say can be backed up by or at least does not disagree with scripture, then I reckon you’ll get your release from the Father.
    We all do some educated speculation on various matters.
    I am also seriously concentrating on the Sabbath Year preparations as a beginner.
    I have found the discrepencies in the Sabbath Year dates interesting. Some folk believe the Shemitah is now.
    I am wondering if my garden with yield a bumper crop this 6th year to give me some encouragement!
    Happy upcoming Sabbath to you all.

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    • Shalom Cosmos,
      Mr. Dumond and I disagree on several topics. There are several upon which we do agree. I have none of the modern facebook, twitter crapifolia so I do not communicate in the modern sense of the word but I have written Mr. Dumond to try and compare “notes” with one another but he has not responded. Please remember, he is a highly in demand speaker and I am not. Supposedly, I have more time on my hands than he does. I have no animosity toward anyone. I care not what came first, the chicken or the egg. ((But who sat on the egg 21 days for it to hatch?))

      Mr. Dumond spent a great deal more time on his chart than I did mine because mine accomplished what I set out to do. Mr. Dumond tried to establish numerous levels throughout history whereas I tried to verify dates. He can have all the credit. I want none of it. That is not my role in life. I wish only the best for Mr. Dumond. He has the knowledge and persona to communicate with influential people. I research for my own knowledge. Is one greater than the other? You can answer that, not me.

      Just for the record, if anyone else says anything that I do, please give them the credit. It will save time. I claim nothing.

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